I read Stacey’s post An Eye For An Eye and most questions come to mind. Who are we to judge the sin of our man? Should a pedophile be eligible to judge the murderer? Why does society rank the good and bad things people do and then punish or reward them as they feel fit? If a murder a person who has gone crazy or are they perfectly sane when they kill? If they kill someone and they are judged clinically insane should they still be put on death row? And when they are on death row are they simply put there because society doesn’t want to deal with them?
Any thoughts? Opinions? Answers?
Any thoughts? Opinions? Answers?
6 comments:
A pedophile wouldn't be biased in a murder trial.
Alright ill answer in my opinion.
We created a Judicial system put in place to deal with any form of crime, to prosocute them as we see fit. This is our right as Americans. And a commited pedophile cannot judge anyone, for pedophilia is a felony in the United States of America,no felon can judge in the system. So with that they hope that good minded americans can judge based off there Moral standers and untill now moral standerds of americans have been pretty much in the regard for Capital punishment. The reason we "rank" is for through centerys we have seen what "good" things do to a sociaty and the "bad" so we rank becouse it has worked and made our sociaty better. In most cases people who are judged clinically insane they are never killed they are put into mental instetutions for the rest of there life. No we have delt with them. they are going to die. simple as that.
Well thank you both for replying...
I ment a pedophile who hadn't been caught yet. I mean the people who are judging them could be a person with some crazy issues. It was an example of someone who in my eyes is disgusting and shouldn't be fit to judge a murderer just like the murderer shouldn't judge the pedophile.
And as to the insane, if we place them in an institution are we not putting everyone there in danger? I honestly think they too should just be "killed off" like other's in jail for the same crime. Living in an institution is just being removed from the bulk of the world to take pills, play board games, and watch TV all day. (Going by the Hollywood mental hospitals) Or do they have "special" mental institutions for them in the real world?
Bri,
Those are all excellent points. To clarify, I think the death penalty is only considered when the defendant is judged to be sane, competent, and fully responsible for his/her own actions.
If they don't meet those criteria, they shouldn't even be considered for the death penalty.
so what would an alternative be? We couldn't let a murder continue on with normal life. If there weren't harsh consequences for such things, we would find people being killed alarmingly more often. Now I understand all the punishment in the world will not eraticate the problem, but unless you can come up with a system that works better than the one we currently have in place, I don't think you can say what we are doing is so wrong.
Point 1. A pedophile can find murder awful and repulsive, just as a murderer can find pedophilia disgusting. To find a completely unbiased jury for any trial would truly be a miracle.
Point 2. To "judge the sin of our man" brings irrelevant religious points into this arguement. Separation of church and state.
Numero Tres: I agree with Buggles, people aren't so stupid that they can't see how "good" and "bad" things affect society. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't it seem like the obvious choice would be to do our best to better society and rid it of people who do "bad" things?
Vier: "If a murder a person who has gone crazy or are they perfectly sane when they kill?" Although it sounds harsh, next time, check your grammar BEFORE you post. Insanity is a legal term meaning the person isn't responsible for their actions. Labeling a person insane is based upon extensive psychological evaluation. If the person is found to have a mental illness, hospitalization is actually a good way for them to get treatment for their mental disorder. It's not just society's way of ignoring them, it's not a place to chow down pills and play board games. They're not putting other people in an institution in danger: Solitary confinement and medication are quite effective. I think before you talk about mental illness, mental institutions, medication, etc. at RiverCity, you should try to realise the number of students here who have actually been hospitalised for a mental illness, have been or are heavily medicated, and have been diagnosed with a mental illness. Have you ever been to a psychiatrist? Do you have any clue what a psychiatric evaluation is like? Do you realise mental institutions are in place to help people rather than a place to waste tax dollars ignoring them? Do please get out of movie land and come to the "real world", as you've labeled it. Your detachment from reality hints psychosis. The pot calling the kettle black perhaps?
I do think the death penalty is necessary in cases where the person was in their right mind at the time, and they clearly pose a threat to society. If we killed off all the crazies there would be no RiverCity. If we didn't judge people and act accordingly what would our society be? If we don't use correct grammar and spelling and make points based in reality while arguing, do we get our point across?
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